Jehovah Witness Perspective On Nephilim

by Karl
(Canada)

I enjoyed your comments on this topic. I thought I would take the liberty to share with you the Perspective of Jehovah's Witnesses on this topic. You may have heard this information before. Perhaps some of the "logic" will be new to you. I would be happy to reply to any questions you may have. I enjoy your exposure of the NWO. You are correct...the bible does indeed refer to "sons of god" in the context of humans, but that should not be surprising. I can elaborate on that at a later time if you wish. Have a great day.
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(Neph′i‧lim) [Fellers; Those Who Cause Others to Fall Down].

This is a transliteration of the Hebrew word nephi‧lim′, plural in its three occurrences in the Bible. (Ge 6:4; Nu 13:33 twice) It evidently stems from the causative form of the Hebrew verb na‧phal′ (fall) as found, for example, in 2 Kings 3:19; 19:7.

The Bible account describing Jehovah’s displeasure with men in the days of Noah before the Flood relates that “the sons of the true God” took for themselves wives from among the attractive daughters of men. It then mentions the presence of “Nephilim,” saying: “The Nephilim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones Heb., hag‧gib‧bo‧rim′ who were of old, the men of fame.”—Ge 6:1-4.

Identity. Bible commentators, considering verse 4, have offered several suggestions as to the identity of these Nephilim. Some have thought that the derivation of the name indicates that the Nephilim had fallen from heaven, that is, that they were ‘fallen angels’ who mated with women to produce “mighty ones . . . the men of fame.” Other scholars, focusing their attention particularly on the statement “and also after that” (vs 4), have said the Nephilim were not the ‘fallen angels’ or the “mighty ones,” since the Nephilim “proved to be in the earth in those days” before the sons of God had relations with women. These latter scholars hold the opinion that the Nephilim were simply wicked men like Cain—robbers, bullies, and tyrants who roamed the earth until they were destroyed by the Flood. Still another group, taking into consideration the context of verse 4, conclude that the Nephilim were not themselves angels, but were the hybrid offspring resulting from materialized angels
having intercourse with the daughters of men.

Same as “gib‧bo‧rim′.” Certain Bible translations adjust the location of the phrase “and also after that,” placing it near the beginning of verse 4, thus identifying the Nephilim with the “mighty ones,” the gib‧bo‧rim′, mentioned in the latter part of the verse. For example: “In those days, as well as afterward, there were giants Heb., han‧nephi‧lim′ on the earth, who were born to the sons of the gods whenever they had intercourse with the daughters of men; these were the heroes Heb., hag‧gib‧bo‧rim′ who were men of note in days of old.”—Ge 6:4, AT; see also Mo, NIV, and TEV.

The Greek Septuagint also suggests that both the “Nephilim” and “mighty ones” are identical by using the same word gi′gan‧tes (giants) to translate both expressions.

Reviewing the account, we see that verses 1 to 3 tell of “the sons of the true God” taking wives and of Jehovah’s statement that he was going to end his patience with men after 120 years. Verse 4 then speaks of the Nephilim proving to be in the earth “in those days,” evidently the days when Jehovah made the statement. Then it shows that this situation continued “after that, when the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughters of men,” and describes in more detail the results of the union of “the sons of the true God” with women.

Who were the ‘sons of God’ that fathered the Nephilim?

Who were “the sons of the true God” that were involved? Were they men who were worshipers of Jehovah (as distinguished from the general run of wicked mankind), as some claim? Evidently not. The Bible implies that their marriage to the daughters of men resulted in whipping up the badness in the earth. Noah and his three sons, along with their wives, were the only ones in God’s favor and were the only ones preserved through the Deluge.—Ge 6:9; 8:15, 16; 1Pe 3:20.

Hence, if these “sons of the true God” were merely men, the question arises, Why were their offspring “men of fame” more than those of the wicked, or of faithful Noah? Also, the question might be asked, Why mention their marriage to the daughters of men as something special? Marriage and childbearing had been taking place for more than 1,500 years.

The sons of God mentioned at Genesis 6:2, therefore, must have been angels, spirit “sons of God.” This expression is applied to angels at Job 1:6; 38:7. This view is supported by Peter, who speaks of “the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days.” (1Pe 3:19, 20) Also Jude writes of “the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place.” (Jude 6) Angels had the power to materialize in human form, and some angels did so to bring messages from God. (Ge 18:1, 2, 8, 20-22; 19:1-11; Jos 5:13-15) But heaven is the proper abode of spirit persons, and the angels there have positions of service under Jehovah. (Da 7:9, 10) To leave this abode to dwell on earth and to forsake their assigned service to have fleshly relations would be rebellion against God’s laws, and perversion.

The Bible states that the disobedient angels are now “spirits in prison,” having been ‘thrown into Tartarus’ and “reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.” This seems to indicate that they are greatly restricted, unable again to materialize as they did prior to the Flood.—1Pe 3:19; 2Pe 2:4; Jude 6.

Increased Wickedness. “The mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame” that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with God, for they did not survive the Flood, as did Noah and his family. They were “Nephilim,” bullies, tyrants, who no doubt helped to make conditions worse. Their angelic fathers, knowing the construction of the human body and being able to materialize, were not creating life, but lived in these human bodies and, cohabiting with women, brought forth children. Their children, “mighty ones,” were therefore unauthorized hybrids. Apparently the Nephilim did not, in turn, have children.

In Mythology. The fame and dread of the Nephilim, it appears, gave rise to many mythologies of heathen people who, after the confusion of languages at Babel, were scattered throughout the earth. Though the historical forms of the Genesis account were greatly distorted and embellished, there was a remarkable resemblance in these ancient mythologies (those of the Greeks being only one example), in which gods and goddesses mated with humans to produce superhuman heroes and fearful demigods having god-man characteristics.—See GREECE, GREEKS (Greek Religion).

A Report Intended to Terrorize. The ten spies who brought back to the Israelites in the wilderness a false report on the land of Canaan declared: “All the people whom we saw in the midst of it are men of extraordinary size. And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who are from the Nephilim; so that we became in our own eyes like grasshoppers, and the same way we became in their eyes.” No doubt there were some large men in Canaan, as other scriptures show, but never except in this “bad report,” which was carefully couched in language designed to strike terror and cause panic among the Israelites, are they called Nephilim.—Nu 13:31-33; 14:36, 37.

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May 04, 2012
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To TJ: Multi-density Earth
by: Anonymous

You have failed to grasp the thrust of my entry, which is, admittedly, a bit esoteric, so permit me this attempt at elucidation.

The physical rocky earth is enveloped and interpenetrated by invisible densities or nested spheres of 'supersymmetric' energy-substance at different vibratory frequency ranges, and these are inhabited by multifarious species of life-forms. Particularly relevant is the descent of 'extradimensional' humans from the invisible subtle electromagnetic plasmasphere to flesh-and-blood embodiment upon the material globe. Thus, the prevailing views - both religious and secular - are only partly correct, as different groups of people would have degenerated from a more ethereal state to a denser, more material one at different rates and times. This is what I mean when I say that not all living humans are equally 'autochthonous' or 'chthonian' in our descent, though we are all obviously flesh-and-blood men and women today.

May 03, 2012
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To Anonymous
by: TJ

You are right about humanity and religion re-evaluting. Thats all bullshit you have been conditioned to believe. The plan has been in the works for many many years to discredit religion and make humanity re-evalutate itself by showing that there is life on other planets.

That is why there are shows and movies like Star Trek, Star Wars, 2001, Etc Etc.

All the "life on other planets" is bullshit and made up. All the documentation is faked. That is why we have not seen any other life form here. Any that we will see in the future is all staged.

They put all this in writing and now the idiots are dispersing this crap through out the earth.

I see you take indoctrination very well.

May 03, 2012
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'Uranian' and 'Autochthonous'?
by: Anonymous

At the risk of adding fuel to the fires of controversy, let me just ask an unconventional question: Is it possible that all living humans do not descend equally from Adamic man?

I suspect that the prevailing views are only partly correct at best, for not all living humans are equally 'autochthonous'. There are, I suspect, human beings who are descended, to a greater extent than others, from 'uranians', misidentified either as 'gods' or as 'fallen angels' or, now, even as 'extraterrestrials'. And I furthermore suspect that Caucasian people, particularly those of predominant 'Nordid' heritage, are more 'uranian' than 'autochthonous' in their descent.

I am of the opinion that soon humanity � including both the votaries of organized religions and the champions of the dominant evolutionary paradigm � will be forced to reappraise its view of the history and development of civilization upon this planet.

Feb 24, 2011
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Did You Read This page?
by: TJ Chambers

truthseeker, did you see my page I wrote on this topic?

Nephilim

Feb 24, 2011
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Sons of God
by: truthseeker

While the section on the sons of God being angels was interesting, I have a question for you regarding their identity? Genesis 6:2 says "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." So, the verse says the sons of God took wives who were human women. Jesus states in Matthew 22:30, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. So, either the sons of god are men(the family line of Seth) or Jesus does not know the scriptures, which I doubt 110%. Job 1:6 and 2:1 talks about the sons of god being present before God, but John 1:12 and Romans 8:14 shows the sons of God to be human as well. If you wish to comment on this please respond, I await to hear other opinions on this subject. God Bless.

Nov 16, 2010
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Please Use common sense while reading scripture.
by: Anonymous

Also there were some slaves of the transatlantic slave trade with Hebrew names or words and the name YAH incorporated in their names. These slaves were from the Eboo / Hebo tribe. That is a Hebrew tribe.
There was one called “YAHO”.
This could be another form of "YAHU"
One called “AhkeYAH”. In Hebrew is spelt AchiYah but pronounced “akh ee yah”. In Hebrew the name means “my brother is YAH”
One called “HanYAH”. This means “YAH is gracious”
One called HenYAH. This also means “Yah is gracious”. Both come from the Hebrew ChenYAH / ChanYAH / HenYAH / HanYAH.

http://slavevoyages.org/tast/resources/slaves.faces

And we have Psalm 68:4, “Sing unto the Almighty, sing praises to his name; extol him who rides upon the heavens by HIS NAME YAH, and rejoice before him”

& with this information we need look at the scriptures with a clear vision of what we should be reading everytime we see the words God, Lord, The Lord God, The Lord your God, etc. because in order for the scriptures to make sense Abba's actual name MUST be used. an ex.? let's look at:

Duet. 10:20, "You shall fear Yah, your Power; you shall serve Him, & to Him you shall hold fast, & take oaths in His name." (Which is impossible to do unless you know & use His true name as opposed to a generic title. Using a generic title, you can be calling any 1 of hundreds of demons, which is dangerous.)
& 28:58, "If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious & awesome name YAH!" (Now, as you know, the Bible says, "THE LORD YOUR GOD" here. Reading it this way, however, makes crystal clear how little sense this makes. A title is NOT a name, & someone's Name is NOT a title. It also makes clear that the thing called the Tetragrammaton is a counter or anti-scriptural man-made creation. There is no scripture that supports that Yah is short for any other name.

Now, if the biblical evidences, as well as evidences outside of the Scriptures are not proof that the Most High’s name is Yah; what do you think his true name is? And are you sure that you believe that the entire Scriptures are true? These R questions that people must ask themselves. 1 cannot deny the truth without supplying an alternative choice, otherwise they R just swaying the opinion of the truth seeker away from Abba Yah. & then they must be looked upon with strong suspicion.

Nov 16, 2010
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Please Use common sense while reading scripture.
by: Anonymous

Excellent points. I'm impressed. Common sense goes a long way in clarifying some of these points. Deuteronomy talks over & over again about The Israelites, with Yah in their presence defeating the giants, & taking their land (1:3-8, 1:19-46 & chapters 2-10! 9:5 specifically says: "it is NOT because of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart that you go in to possess their land, but because of the wickedness of these nations that YAH drives them out from before you...". This (& the next few verses) also clearly demonstrates that "sons of God" couldn't have meant followers of "God" because they were obviously NOT obeying The Father. Now...regarding The Creator's name. If all the Egyptian & Greek "Gods" have a name, Surely the Creator of EVERYTHING has 1!! As a matter of fact it is clear throughout the Scriptures that THIS IS the Most High’s name.(& we must keep in mind that there was/is no “j” in Hebrew.) We have the proof of many biblical characters’ names, a lot of the names our ancestors came here with in slavery (Deuteronomy 28:68 & Leviticus 26:17, 25, 33, & 38) & were whipped 2 get rid of, such as: (iH = in Hebrew. m: = Meaning)

Isaiah = IsaYAH = YeshaYAH/YeshaYAHu iH. m: YAH is salvation.
Jeremiah = JeremiYAH = YirmeYAH/YirmeYAHu iH. m: Exalted by YAH.
Obadiah = ObadYAH iH. m:Servent of Yah
Elijah = EliYAH iH. m: Yah is Ruler.
Azariah = AzarYAH iH. m: Helped by Yah
Zachariah = ZacharYAH iH. m: Yah recalled.
Nehemiah = NehemYAH iH. m:Yah is Comforter.
Matthew = MatitYAH/MattitYAHu iH. m: Yah's gift.
Zephaniah = ZephanYAH iH. m: Hidden by Yah.
Uriah = UriYAH iH. m: Light of Yah.
Joshua = YAHoshua iH. m: The Salvation of Yah. / Yah's Salvation.(Matt. 1:21)

Then we have the word ‘hallelujah’ which in Hebrew is ‘halleluYAH’, which means ‘Praise YAH’/ 'Praise you YAH'. & the question must be asked, Why was the spelling changed from Yah to Jah? & who decreed that it should be done?

We have the names of some towns or cities in countries such as Iraq;
NasiriYAH).
SulaymaniYAH
Al DiwaniYAH
Al QadisiYAH

Iraq is in the area where ancient Babylon was. The ancient Babylonians had interactions with the Hebrews and some Hebrews did not return back to the land of Israel after the 70 year Babylonian captivity. So their influence may have affected the Babylonian culture. For example, Daniel became an influential officer to king Nebuchadnezzar. So could it be that the name YAH was actually introduced to the Babylonians and not the other way around?

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